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For the sake of clarity, erhaps my question is best boiled down to asking why the focus on Trump rather than, say, Berlusconi. Why not call Trump a "Berlusconi like" figure? Focusing on the Italian experience allows for clearer insight into the alignments of the day, the conflicting political cultures and trajectories. Incidentally, one could also start with Farage and Brexit. From this perspective and with respect to Trump, the insistence on centring of the analysis on Trump highlights how critique itself can prove complicit with the restatement and reinforcement of American hegemony. I am just not sure that these different starting points yield the same outcomes. This, I suppose, is my conundrum.

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Thank you for an exhaustive and very interesting discussion of Trump's return to the presidency of the United States. I am perhaps grabbing the wrong end of the stick, but I find the account strangely insular. In my view Trump's emergence is the latest instantiation of a more general, global phenomenon and this is the context in which it needs to be examined. Borrowing from physical chemistry, I regard Trump as the perturbation that precipitates a phase change, a qualitative change in the state of matter. Trump is the endpoint of a global, secular process of transformation, involving both the emergence of a neoliberal governmental apparatus and the end of the Cold War. New state actors have emerged, the EU, the BRICS and the PRC, but perhaps with the exception of the latter, the state is increasingly redundant, except perhaps as a guarantor of negative freedom. Plutocracy has everywhere captured the geopolitical apparatus and in a way that calls into question whether we are not in fact witnessing the end of capitalism. Going back to Foucault's Order of Things, the intellectual challenge of the day I think is to articulate the new grammar and syntax of power. This is what I meant when I expressed uncertainty about where we are in the play of difference and repetition. Anyway, hard as it may be, we need to decentre Trump and the US. Only then will we be able to start making sense of the new state in which we find ourselves.

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